fuck i don't know. technically she got me killed but like tucker said, exiling her feels like we're just handing her over to the null, and we don't know what the fuck they'll use her for. and executing her is just i don't know it feels wrong. and what's the point anyway? i don't think she's going to try to escape and it's not going to fix shit.
If it helps, that's the same way I feel about it. Exiling her might only make things worse for either her or us, and killing her seems more motivated by a desire for revenge than anything else, even if anger and hurt toward her is understandable.
And, although it's not an excuse for her behavior, people can do terrible things when they're trying to survive.
[And Lance has been thinking a lot about this whole situation, including a point that he realized is a part of why the option of execution seemed so wrong, besides the obvious reasons.]
It also concerns me that the other gods refuse to send us home specifically because they need us here to serve as energy sources in order to survive an attack by the Null, and that reason is used to justify the things they do to us, including causing our deaths. Delight's motive was the same--surviving the Null--but because she acted against the other gods, they're willing to kill her for the same thing they've been doing to us. I'm not sure that's a precedent it would be wise to allow.
the gods don't give a shit about us. we're just batteries, right? unless delight was lying, she's the only one who actually tried to get us home. back home there are some elves that don't really think of races with shorter lifespans as people, i guess. it's probably the same with the gods.
She did, although as a part of that the Null were allowed to kill whoever so much as said the wrong thing to them, so I'm not sure how much that counts.
But you're right; although I think Hope does care about us, the others I doubt see us as anything but ways to power themselves up. Considering they've basically abandoned us to fend for ourselves in this new place, despite getting us into this entire situation to begin with, they really can't be too concerned about us.
[Which is an uncomfortably familiar feeling for Lance, and one he doesn't want to dwell on.]
Yeah, which is another problem. Too many here seem to favor violence as a first solution, and act like any disagreement is due to a lack of experience or knowledge of 'how things actually work.'
[If this weren't text, that last bit would get some major air quotes; the text ones are not enough.]
[...Okay, yeah, that might've all been a little obvious.]
It's very frustrating.
[And he isn't usually able to talk about much of it. Brennan cares and listens, but discussing motivations and morality are not exactly her strong points even if they ultimately agree.]
well they dragged us here, first of all. and hope is a condescending dick. and i get that they're all jacked up now, whatever but when they're in better shape they could at least try to make us comfortable instead of making us beg for shit like a fucking garden.
Those are all good reasons. Treating us like we're inconveniences is more than a little insulting when we didn't ask to be brought here, especially when it ended up being our responsibility to fight their enemies for them.
I think I had a better experience with Hope than you did, so I feel a little more favorably toward him than the others, but generally I agree. It's important not to forget the actual situation, and how they act when things get bad.
[Like now, with the continued lack of resources; he can't really blame Hope considering he's injured, but the other gods could at least try filling in for him a little. But it's clear they don't care that much as long as everyone isn't dropping dead, and therefore not providing them any energy.]
He agreed to ask Sorrow about finding out if it was possible to use the Door to send me back to my world at a slightly earlier time than I came from.
[It's probably obvious why that's important to him. But considering Sorrow's dead now, the whole idea is probably even more wishful thinking than it already had been, and this is part of the reason he ended up so depressed over the last few weeks.]
[It's indeed possible Sorrow might come back, so he hasn't completely given up, but he still feels like he should probably start being a little more realistic about things in the meantime.
But he doesn't want to think about any of that right now, and offers a slightly lighter comment.]
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technically she got me killed
but like tucker said, exiling her feels like we're just handing her over to the null, and we don't know what the fuck they'll use her for.
and executing her is just
i don't know
it feels wrong.
and what's the point anyway? i don't think she's going to try to escape and it's not going to fix shit.
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And, although it's not an excuse for her behavior, people can do terrible things when they're trying to survive.
[And Lance has been thinking a lot about this whole situation, including a point that he realized is a part of why the option of execution seemed so wrong, besides the obvious reasons.]
It also concerns me that the other gods refuse to send us home specifically because they need us here to serve as energy sources in order to survive an attack by the Null, and that reason is used to justify the things they do to us, including causing our deaths. Delight's motive was the same--surviving the Null--but because she acted against the other gods, they're willing to kill her for the same thing they've been doing to us. I'm not sure that's a precedent it would be wise to allow.
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unless delight was lying, she's the only one who actually tried to get us home.
back home there are some elves that don't really think of races with shorter lifespans as
people, i guess.
it's probably the same with the gods.
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But you're right; although I think Hope does care about us, the others I doubt see us as anything but ways to power themselves up. Considering they've basically abandoned us to fend for ourselves in this new place, despite getting us into this entire situation to begin with, they really can't be too concerned about us.
[Which is an uncomfortably familiar feeling for Lance, and one he doesn't want to dwell on.]
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besides, some of the people on that post seemed like they wanted to kill her as revenge, anyway.
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[If this weren't text, that last bit would get some major air quotes; the text ones are not enough.]
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It's very frustrating.
[And he isn't usually able to talk about much of it. Brennan cares and listens, but discussing motivations and morality are not exactly her strong points even if they ultimately agree.]
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[He needs it, after all.]
But thank you. And if I ever get too carried away, just stop me.
[He's very used to being stopped in the middle of a rant.]
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keep going.
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i don't know.
this place is a fucking mess but what else is new?
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but idk
i don't trust the gods to handle this shit.
i don't like them.
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and hope is a condescending dick.
and i get that they're all jacked up now, whatever
but when they're in better shape they could at least try to make us comfortable instead of making us beg for shit like a fucking garden.
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i don't know how anyone here gets attached to them.
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[Like now, with the continued lack of resources; he can't really blame Hope considering he's injured, but the other gods could at least try filling in for him a little. But it's clear they don't care that much as long as everyone isn't dropping dead, and therefore not providing them any energy.]
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[It's probably obvious why that's important to him. But considering Sorrow's dead now, the whole idea is probably even more wishful thinking than it already had been, and this is part of the reason he ended up so depressed over the last few weeks.]
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i guess that is pretty cool of him.
i hope you can.
[Assuming Sorrow comes back and they aren't trapped here forever.]
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[It's indeed possible Sorrow might come back, so he hasn't completely given up, but he still feels like he should probably start being a little more realistic about things in the meantime.
But he doesn't want to think about any of that right now, and offers a slightly lighter comment.]
The other gods all still suck though.
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which one is the worst?
[So now this is just straight up gossip.]
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wtf is this conversation who raised them
they really should be supervised
HONESTLY
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